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Sound of Trumpet  
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 خيارات أكثر 21 نوفمبر 2009, 15:00
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
التاريخ: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:58 -0800 (PST)
محلّي: ‏السبت 21 نوفمبر 2009 15:00‏
الموضوع: ‏Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏

http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/yale_abortion_as_art.html

What's the Problem With Yale Student, Aliza Shvarts, and "Abortion as
Art"?
by Rich Deem

Introduction

Abortion as Art?

Senior Yale student, Aliza Shvarts, decided to do her senior art
project on abortion, using her own body to produce the "art." She has
been roundly condemned by both pro- and anti-abortion proponents.
Regardless of the question of whether the work amounts to art, why
would pro-abortion proponents complain about what she did. She did
nothing illegal, and since abortion is supposed to be a freedom worth
defending, her having done it several months in a row should be a
cause for the celebration of her freedom. Why doesn't anybody buy
that?

Rich Deem

Aliza Shvarts, Senior Yale student, decided to do her senior art
project on abortion. However, this was no ordinary art project, since
Ms. Shvarts artificially inseminated herself multiple times during the
fertile period of her cycle and then induced chemical abortions two
weeks later. A video chronology of the nine month "art" project, in
addition to a collection of bodily fluids are to be showcased next
week, if all goes as planned. Of course, pro-life proponents are
outraged, but surprisingly, pro-choice proponents don't seem to like
the "art" either. Does this make logical sense?
Pro-choice objections?

Although Ms. Shvarts says her project is about "abortion," the secular
articles tend to call it "miscarriages".1 This is technically
incorrect. A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion, not man induced
one. So, we really are talking about induced abortion and not a
spontaneous miscarriage. Yale officials have called, the project,
"creative fiction," although Ms. Shvarts herself contradicted their
claim in her own article, published the next day in the Yale Daily
News.2 It is uncertain that Ms. Shvarts ever became pregnant, although
given the technique described, it would be unlikely that she never
became pregnant during the entire 9 month of attempts.

Ted Miller, a spokesman for the abortion-rights group NARAL Pro-Choice
America condemned the exhibition in a written statement saying, "This
'project' is offensive and insensitive to the women who have suffered
the heartbreak of miscarriage." However, Ms. Shvarts didn't really
suffer the "heartbreak of miscarriage," but induced her own abortions.
NARAL should be thrilled that Ms. Shvarts is exercising her "abortion
rights" without guilt. After all, abortion is legal and is even
included in the Bill of Rights!
Logical Error!!!

The main problem for NARAL and the pro-choice movement is that,
although they support abortion, they know it is evil. If abortion were
a good thing, then more abortion would be even better. Ms. Shvarts
would be applauded for doing good. However, it is clear that even pro-
abortion supporters know that abortion is evil, and the more there is,
the more evil it is. However, it seems to have taken an extreme
example of abortion in order to make them understand the reality of
what abortion is - evil.
Conclusion Top of page

The pro-choice stance of even the most radical pro-abortion
organizations shows that even they believe abortion to be evil. They
decry the intentional creation of life and subsequent intentional
destruction of such life. If NARAL really believed that abortion were
good, they would applaud Aliza Shvarts for exercising her
constitutional right of abortion.
Related Pages Top of page

    * Abortion - Life, Right, Choice?- Secular Arguments Against
Abortion (Abortion: Life? Choice? Right? - Secular Arguments Against
Abortion 440 KB MS PowerPoint file)
    * Science and Abortion - The scientific basis of the prolife
position.
    * The Law and Abortion - Why the law is logically inconsistent.
    * Modern Eugenics: How Abortion is Getting Rid of 'Undesirables' -
Abortion as a good way to get rid of minorities and poor people who
might have children (God forbid!) who commit crimes.
    * D & X (Partial Birth) Abortions - They are never medically
necessary
    * Do Fetuses Feel Pain During An Abortion? - A new scientific
study shows that cortical brain responses to pain occur in infants as
young as 25 weeks gestational age.

References Top of page

   1. "The supposed senior art project of the Davenport College senior
was a 'creative fiction,' a Yale official said Thursday afternoon as
students on campus and bloggers across the country expressed colossal
outrage over what Shvarts described as a documentation of a nine-month
process during which she claimed to have artificially inseminated
herself 'as often as possible' while periodically taking
'abortifacient drugs' to induce miscarriages."
      Zachary Abrahamson, Thomas Kaplan and Martine Powers. 2008.
University calls art project a fiction; Shvarts '08 disputes Yale's
claim' Yale Daily News, April 17, 2008.
   2. "For the past year, I performed repeated self-induced
miscarriages. I created a group of fabricators from volunteers who
submitted to periodic STD screenings and agreed to their complete and
permanent anonymity. From the 9th to the 15th day of my menstrual
cycle, the fabricators would provide me with sperm samples, which I
used to privately self-inseminate. Using a needleless syringe, I would
inject the sperm near my cervix within 30 minutes of its collection,
so as to insure the possibility of fertilization. On the 28th day of
my cycle, I would ingest an abortifacient, after which I would
experience cramps and heavy bleeding."
      Aliza Shvarts. 2008. Shvarts explains her 'repeated self-induced
miscarriages' Yale Daily News, April 18, 2008.
   3. Samantha Broussard-Wilson. 2008. Reaction to Shvarts: Outrage,
shock, disgust' Yale Daily News, April 18, 2008.

http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/yale_abortion_as_art.html#l9Uy2...
Last updated April 18, 2008


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
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يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
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Uncle Vic  
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 خيارات أكثر 21 نوفمبر 2009, 19:27
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: Uncle Vic <vic...@inreach.com>
التاريخ: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:27:12 -0800 (PST)
محلّي: ‏السبت 21 نوفمبر 2009 19:27‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏
On Nov 21, 5:00 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

<nothing worth reading>

If you don't like abortion, don't have one.

--
Uncle Vic
AA#2011


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
Dänk 1010011010  
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 خيارات أكثر 21 نوفمبر 2009, 21:30
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com>
التاريخ: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:30:32 -0800 (PST)
محلّي: ‏السبت 21 نوفمبر 2009 21:30‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏
On Nov 21, 6:00 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

I never thought of abortion as art, but actually it is a perfect
example of art.  True art is anything that provokes a strong emotional
response in the viewer, which abortion seems to do nicely.  Good art
should shock and offend and leave the viewer feeling soiled and dirty
and traumatized for weeks.

A watercolor of a flower or a building - no matter how accurately
rendered - is not art, which is why Adolf Hitler was a failed artist.
Taking a plastic crucifix and dunking it in a jar of your own urine is
art, since it upsets people so much.  A lump of elephant dung can be
transformed into art simply by labeling it the "Virgin Mary," since it
now provokes an emotional response that the simple pile of shit failed
to do before.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
"You see, our photographic experiment involves beauty and crime: we
feel them to be one.  We have a theory that crime enhances one's
beauty.  The worse the crime gets, the more ravishing one becomes."
-- Female Trouble


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
Andrew Usher  
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 خيارات أكثر 22 نوفمبر 2009, 03:25
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com>
التاريخ: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:25:57 -0800 (PST)
محلّي: ‏الأحد 22 نوفمبر 2009 03:25‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏

<snip>

This is very old news. I think it's been determined that it was a
hoax, but it's very offensive whether it was real or not. She should
have been severely reprimanded at the least, as should any faculty
member that approved this 'art'.

Andrew Usher


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
W.T.S.  
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 خيارات أكثر 22 نوفمبر 2009, 03:57
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net>
التاريخ: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:57:18 -0600
محلّي: ‏الأحد 22 نوفمبر 2009 03:57‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote in message
news:45e3ec18-1115-4519-a574-2334a4f43a7b@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/yale_abortion_as_art.html
> What's the Problem With Yale Student, Aliza Shvarts, and "Abortion as
> Art"?
> by Rich Deem
> Introduction
> Abortion as Art?
> Senior Yale student, Aliza Shvarts, decided to do her senior art
> project on abortion, using her own body to produce the "art." She has
> been roundly condemned by both pro- and anti-abortion proponents.
> Regardless of the question of whether the work amounts to art, why
> would pro-abortion proponents complain about what she did. She did
> nothing illegal, and since abortion is supposed to be a freedom worth
> defending, her having done it several months in a row should be a
> cause for the celebration of her freedom. Why doesn't anybody buy
> that?

What Ms. Shvarts did was a wonderful, beautiful thing!  Abortion is a gift
from God Almighty!  I only hope an pray that these unborn children suffered
as much as possible before they got justice.  Abortion is a work of art, all
women should abort their child filth before it invades the world of normal
adults.
Baby, bad.  Abortion, wonderful!

يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
martin  
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 خيارات أكثر 24 نوفمبر 2009, 02:48
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk>
التاريخ: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:48:36 +0000
محلّي: ‏الثلاثاء 24 نوفمبر 2009 02:48‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏

Conceptual art is never wasted. Good for her.

يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
Andrew Usher  
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 خيارات أكثر 25 نوفمبر 2009, 06:53
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com>
التاريخ: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:53:46 -0800 (PST)
محلّي: ‏الأربعاء 25 نوفمبر 2009 06:53‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏
On Nov 23, 6:48 pm, martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

And this is exactly what's wrong with you people. I wasn't aware that
offensiveness had artistic merit.

Andrew Usher


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
Ray Fischer  
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 خيارات أكثر 25 نوفمبر 2009, 09:15
مجموعات أخبار: alt.atheism, alt.abortion, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism, soc.men
من: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
التاريخ: 25 Nov 2009 07:15:02 GMT
محلّي: ‏الأربعاء 25 نوفمبر 2009 09:15‏
الموضوع: ‏Re: Is Abortion A Work Of Art?‏
Andrew Usher  <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Just because YOU are offended doesn't mean that it isn't artistic.

--
Ray Fischer        
rfisc...@sonic.net  


يجب تسجيل الدخول قبل إرسال رسائلك.
لنشر رسالة يجب أولاً أن تنضم إلى هذه المجموعة.
يرجى تحديث اسم الشهرة الخاص بك على صفحة إعدادات الاشتراك قبل النشر.
لا يوجد لديك الإذن المطلوب للنشر.
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